I had written the following in response to Terry Simonson's piece of stupidity regarding the quadruple murder. There is a long and heinous history at work here.
"So the problem isn't that there was a quadruple homicide, but that those woman had someplace to live...at all? Really?
I'm sure their families are thrilled that you decided to stack your soap box on top of their bodies and deliver your little homily about the need for racial and economic segregation. Otherwise known as as Not In My BackYard. I'm sure you think it would have been better if all Section 8 Housing was restricted to North Tulsa where murders like these aren't a law enforcement embarassment, but a self-correcting social issue because every minority or member of the under-class killed is one less mouth to feed and shelter on the public dime - though of course it would be tacky for you admit it openly like that. Contrary to what you believe - that only the starving and the homeless are truly free and preferable to people"enslaved" by dependance on public assistance - Section 8 housing does not cause social dysfunction. It is a symptom of it. What actually causes the dysfunction and personal instablity? First, a gutted public education system...initially fostered under Reagan, but where we have the dubious honor of being 3rd or 4th lowest in per pupil investment. Competing with Mississippi, Texas and Louisiana for that title (along with highest rates of incarceration.) I don't doubt you believe the Reagan justification that public education is money wasted on minorities and the poor who won't amount to anything anyway. But minorities are minorities. For every black child who future you under-invest in, you have to stomp the future of four or five white children. You can invest in public education, or you can support the back door welfare state of the prison industrial complex...but either way you still pay. You tell me, which one causes social dysfunction and which promotes stability for the individual and the community? Second major cause of social dysfunction and personal instability: economic collapse and destruction of a community's tax base. Whether the Reagan era exportation of unionized manufacturing jobs that formed the backbone of the black middle class and which created the inner-city as we know it and the crack fueled drug wars of the mid-80's; or the decades and generations of illegal red-lining which economically destroyed North Tulsa (let me guess, you thought that all black people just naturally lived that way...building all those schools so they can sit empty and abandoned) while White Flight spread South Tulsa so far into the flood plains that multiple millions of dollars were required in storm sewers and flood abatement to keep those premium properties for being destroyed every spring and autumn...but no price is too high for good neighborhoods amirite?...both destroy lives families and communities. I knew one of the women who was murdered. I knew her family. You are unfit to speak of her, or how she died, or to say that people like her have no place. You are unworthy. It could well be argued that that her and the other women who were murdered could be counted among the least, socially speaking. And, yeah, what was that Jesus Christ himself said? Matthew 25: 44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’ 46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” Still too vague for you Mr. Only The Starving And Homeless Are Free? Try this.
Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." So where does that leave you and all of the rest of the Social Darwinist Ayn Rand and Reagan fetishists and idolators? You want to return to the public housing policy of ten years ago? You mean the 2003 Bush era Ownership Society initiative? Nice. The partnership between governement and private enterprise that brought us the joys of subprime loans, ENRON style mortgage backed securities, foreclosure mills, the foreclosure crisis, the housing market crisis, the Wall St Meltdown, and the Toxic Asset Relief Program. Good one Terry. Right as always. Exactly what we need. Lastly, I'll take GUNS for a thousand Alex. What did the Sandy Hook massacre and the Tulsa quadruple murder have in common? Think about it. Signed, Don Quixokie"
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"So the problem isn't that there was a quadruple homicide, but that those woman had someplace to live...at all? Really?
I'm sure their families are thrilled that you decided to stack your soap box on top of their bodies and deliver your little homily about the need for racial and economic segregation. Otherwise known as as Not In My BackYard.
I'm sure you think it would have been better if all Section 8 Housing was restricted to North Tulsa where murders like these aren't a law enforcement embarassment, but a self-correcting social issue because every minority or member of the under-class killed is one less mouth to feed and shelter on the public dime - though of course it would be tacky for you admit it openly like that.
Contrary to what you believe - that only the starving and the homeless are truly free and preferable to people"enslaved" by dependance on public assistance - Section 8 housing does not cause social dysfunction. It is a symptom of it.
What actually causes the dysfunction and personal instablity?
First, a gutted public education system...initially fostered under Reagan, but where we have the dubious honor of being 3rd or 4th lowest in per pupil investment. Competing with Mississippi, Texas and Louisiana for that title (along with highest rates of incarceration.) I don't doubt you believe the Reagan justification that public education is money wasted on minorities and the poor who won't amount to anything anyway. But minorities are minorities. For every black child who future you under-invest in, you have to stomp the future of four or five white children. You can invest in public education, or you can support the back door welfare state of the prison industrial complex...but either way you still pay. You tell me, which one causes social dysfunction and which promotes stability for the individual and the community?
Second major cause of social dysfunction and personal instability: economic collapse and destruction of a community's tax base.
Whether the Reagan era exportation of unionized manufacturing jobs that formed the backbone of the black middle class and which created the inner-city as we know it and the crack fueled drug wars of the mid-80's; or the decades and generations of illegal red-lining which economically destroyed North Tulsa (let me guess, you thought that all black people just naturally lived that way...building all those schools so they can sit empty and abandoned) while White Flight spread South Tulsa so far into the flood plains that multiple millions of dollars were required in storm sewers and flood abatement to keep those premium properties for being destroyed every spring and autumn...but no price is too high for good neighborhoods amirite?...both destroy lives families and communities.
I knew one of the women who was murdered. I knew her family.
You are unfit to speak of her, or how she died, or to say that people like her have no place. You are unworthy.
It could well be argued that that her and the other women who were murdered could be counted among the least, socially speaking.
And, yeah, what was that Jesus Christ himself said?
Matthew 25:
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
Still too vague for you Mr. Only The Starving And Homeless Are Free?
Try this.
Mark 10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."
So where does that leave you and all of the rest of the Social Darwinist Ayn Rand and Reagan fetishists and idolators?
You want to return to the public housing policy of ten years ago? You mean the 2003 Bush era Ownership Society initiative?
Nice. The partnership between governement and private enterprise that brought us the joys of subprime loans, ENRON style mortgage backed securities, foreclosure mills, the foreclosure crisis, the housing market crisis, the Wall St Meltdown, and the Toxic Asset Relief Program.
Good one Terry. Right as always. Exactly what we need.
Lastly, I'll take GUNS for a thousand Alex.
What did the Sandy Hook massacre and the Tulsa quadruple murder have in common?
Think about it.
Signed,
Don Quixokie"