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Smoke and Fears

Health concerns and pop pulpit prompt passage of smoking ban in all pubs


BY BRIAN ERVIN

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Nipped in the Butt. A bill making its way through the legislative gauntlet would ban smoking in the last public refuge left to addicts of the tasty but deadly lung snacks.

Nipped in the Butt. A bill making its way through the legislative gauntlet would ban smoking in the last public refuge left to addicts of the tasty but deadly lung snacks.

Oklahoma will soon go the way of California, Ireland and a growing number of other health-conscious, non-smoking parts of the world, if the hopes and fears of some concerned parties come true.

"It'll pass. I know that's the direction we're going," said Robert Johnson, with a modicum of loathing mixed with his resignation.

He owns Cowboy Sharkies sports bar and restaurant, at 58th and Memorial, which has a section designated for smokers.

Johnson is among countless other bar and restaurant proprietors in Tulsa and Oklahoma who are watching a bill currently making its way through the legislative gauntlet, which would ban smoking in the last public refuge left to addicts of the tasty but deadly lung snacks: bars, clubs, taverns and restaurants.

And not just most bars, clubs, taverns and restaurants. Every single one of them.

State Sen. David Myers' Senate Bill 1875 would take away exemptions to the law passed in 2003 that bans smoking in public places.

The old new law made exceptions for establishments that make most of their receipts from alcohol, like bars, and for restaurants with separate rooms with separate ventilation systems preventing second-hand smoke affecting patrons in the non-smoking sections of the restaurant.

Hopefully, those establishments enjoyed it while it lasted (or endured it while it lasted, depending on who's asked). As it's currently written, Myers' proposed law would do away with the bar exception on Nov. 1 this year, and the exception for separately ventilated smoking rooms on March 1, 2013.

"I know this is just one step, and we have a long way to go, but this is a good start," said Myers, R-Ponca City, when the bill passed the Senate Business and Labor Committee by a 5-3 vote last week.

"Too many Oklahomans are facing unnecessary health risks because of secondhand smoke. It kills hundreds of our citizens every year. They need our help," he also said.

Some of those Oklahomans "facing unnecessary health risks" from secondhand smoke are Jesse and Dylan Aycock, who are 26 and 22, respectively.

Their mom, Margee Aycock is among the most vocal advocates for the new law, and the founder of Musicians and Music Lovers for Smoke-Free Listening, a grass roots organization that's been lobbying for the legislation.

She said she formed the group after years of going to see both of her sons perform at many of the bars, clubs and restaurants that are Tulsa's music venues, and got fed up with their constant subjection to secondhand smoke.

"It wasn't just for me, but the fact that my sons are getting sick in these very, very smoky bars," Aycock told UTW.

She said one of her sons is sick year-round, and the other almost fainted once midway through a performance.

"He wasn't getting enough oxygen, there was so much smoke," she said.

Aycock said musicians like her sons typically have to play in thick clouds of the secondhand smoke emitted by about 200 people, for six hours straight, five nights a week, which is worse for the musicians than for the smokers themselves.

"It's just not right," she said.

Aycock said that, since she began her crusade, musicians have approached her and told her, "I am so thankful for you doing this."

She said she expected a lot of opposition and hard feelings for her efforts, but has been surprised by the positive response.

"I've even heard from musicians who are smokers who told me they would prefer to play in a smoke-free environment," Aycock added.

But, the Cowboy Sharkies proprietor called the proposed new law "mansy-pansy" and "wishy-washy."

"They're getting involved in stuff that government has no business getting involved in and making laws against adults doing what they want to do," said Johnson.

About the musicians' plight, he said, "I think they're big kids and if they didn't want the gig, they don't have to take the gig. They're not 12-year-old kids, and we're forcing them up there to sing for their dinner. If they don't like it they can go somewhere else."

Indeed, the website for Aycock's group, www.oksmokefree.blogspot.com, lists a few smoke-free music venues in Tulsa, which include Sound Pony, Kilkenny's, and Bruhouse.

But, Aycock said the smoke-free venues are the exception, not the norm, and there aren't enough smoke-free venues to make a significant dent in the problem.

And, contrary to Johnson's comments, "sing for their dinner" is precisely what the musicians must do, according to Aycock.

"They have to support themselves, and there aren't enough smoke-free venues to do that, and they have to feed their families," she said.

Aycock said the proposed law "doesn't address whether you like to smoke or not, it's about safety in the work place."

Of course, the new law would also affect wait staff at bars.

"Most of them are just trying to work their way through college, and they don't need to be exposed to that," she said.

Aycock added, "It's kind of like telling a factory worker to go somewhere else if he doesn't like the unsafe conditions."

But, that's essentially what Johnson said restaurant operators like him should have the right to do.

"I care about my staff. I treat my staff like my own kids, but they also made the choice to work here, and I've lost staff before because they had allergies and left because of the secondhand smoke," he said.

Johnson is among the minority of restaurants with a separately ventilated smoking section, and he said he prefers his staff spend as little time in it as possible.

He said he objects on principle to the fact that the proposed law would do away with smoking sections like his.

But, Myers told UTW that only about 1 percent of restaurants in Oklahoma have the separately ventilated smoking sections, so the impact from his law would be minimal.

As he sees it, the effect would be negligible even for that one restaurant in 100 with a smoking section.

"Most are never full, in my observation," said Myers.

But, Johnson said his smoking section gives him an advantage of about $2,000 a week.

"I'm one of the few restaurants in town where you can have a rib eye steak and have a cigar at the same time," he said.

Johnson said he had an "unfair advantage over people who couldn't adapt" five years ago when the last statewide smoking ban passed.

When he launched his restaurant six years, the building that became Cowboy Sharkies already had a separately ventilated room, so Johnson was able to comply with the new law without any need to invest more money.

Abdul Alhlou wasn't so fortunate, though.

He's the owner and operator of Silver Flame Steakhouse and Seafood at 61st and Sheridan. After the 2003 law passed, he spent $35,000 to create a smoking section with separate ventilation.

"I did that to accommodate the customers who wanted to smoke. When you have a bar, people like to smoke, people like to drink while they listen to the music," he explained as his reason for the investment.

"Now they're taking it away," he added.

"We complied with everything we were supposed to do, and now they're taking it away in five years," said the exasperated restaurateur.

"It's up to the customer if they want to go in there. We don't twist their arm and say, 'You have to go in this room.' It's up to them," Alhlhou also said.

Myers said disgruntled restaurant owners like Alhlou should take that up with the Oklahoma Restaurant Association if they don't like it.

"Their restaurant association, who they belong to, wants this," he told UTW.

"I realize it's an investment," he added, concerning the newly build smoking rooms. That's why I gave them until 2013," noting that even that deadline is negotiable.

"We're not plowing new ground here," Myers added, noting that 27 other states have already enacted bans on public smoking with no negative impact on business.

Even Ireland--the land renowned for its bars and pubs, has jumped on the smoke-free bandwagon, he pointed out.


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oksmokefree, Downtown
 3/ 6/2008 - 5:37pm
   It seems like people who are against sb1875 are focused on the wrong thing. It isn't about taking away your freedom ( which by the way, your freedom ends where ours begins ) but about providing a healthy work place for ALL Oklahoma workers, which includes waitstaff and musicians. We protect everyone else.
   As far as 2% of restaurants who put in smoking rooms costing on average $5000-$10,000. There was never a promise that there would never be any law written that would get rid of smoking in all public establishments. If we weren't allowed to get rid of bad laws, we would still be living under jim crow laws ( the first on Oklahoma books ) Even this bill allows till 2013 to recoup the expense for those who put a smoking room in. Also since the smoking room allowance there has been new information: NEW INFORMATION that
   1. The American Society of Heating , Refrigeration and Air Conditioning Engineers ( ASHRAE ) the international body that sets the standards for indoor air quality, stated that ventilation “CANNOT ELIMINATE THE HEALTH DANGERS ASSOCIATED WITH SECONDHAND SMOKE” which means that even though those restaurants put in smoking rooms with ventilation, the ventilation will do no good to remove the dangerous chemicals that smokers will be exposed to nor will it protect those in the room next door as wait staff and patrons move between rooms.
   2. Now that other states ( and entire countries ) have gone smoke free there is more information that addresses worries that business will suffer if smoke free is enforced. There have been NO studies that show this, instead there have been reports that business actually increased after smoke free laws were enacted. In NYC alone business increased by 8.7%. hmmmm at an 8.7% increase in profits how long would it take to recoup that $5,000 ventilation system?
   3. Since we enacted smoke free restaurants or restaurants with separate smoking rooms we have also gotten new information from the surgeon general came out with their report on the dangers of being exposed to 2nd hand smoke. Here are some of the chemicals found in 2nd hand smoke and the cancers they cause:
   
   Arsenic, benzo (a) pyrene, dadmium, nickel and NNK : lung cancer
   Nitrosamines : cancer of lung, respiratory system and other organs
   Aromatic amines: bladder and breast cancers
   Formaldehyde and nickel: nasal cancer
   Benzene: leukemia
   Vinyl chloride: liver and brain cancer
   2-napthalymine and 4 aminobiphenyl: bladder cancer
   lead: liver cancer
   
   You all ought to be writing to your senators to beg them to enact this great bill ( 27 other states have as have multitudes of countries ) Oh, and PS business went up in those places, not down....
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ultra liberal, Midtown
 3/ 4/2008 - 4:57am
   The point is bars are privately owned. There are bar owners who want to make money catering to patrons who may or may not smoke. There are also plenty of other bar owners providing non smokers a smoke free option. On privately held land engaged in a legal activity to "bar" that activity through government regulation is very wrong. Continuing down this path is a scary trend. What's next? Who will be the next pariah class. It's my bar, smoking is legal. You don't like it, don't come, don't work here. It's that simple. You won't have much trouble finding a smoke free job these days, so no whining about that! I'm sure I can find people who smoke to work.
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snake plisken, South, Austin, TX
 3/ 3/2008 - 6:33pm
   You Lungers who are against this bill do not realize how inconsiderate you are to the majority of citizens. Quite simply, you stink! Your breath, clothes, hands, and all of your flesh. We do not want to be around you, in your car, and in your home. You will die a painful death and wish you had stopped in time. I don't want to breathe your second hand smoke or have my clothes reek from your filthy habit.
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don'tlie, Claremore
 3/ 3/2008 - 12:43pm
   Why can't people leave well alone. How many yeaars has people been smoking in this country they say that this country is land of the free but yet every time we turn around someone else is pushing another law or bill into the works that is making it more land of the almost free as long as you follow this rule. I know that there need to be laws and those laws to be enforced but when it comes to someone knit picking cause they don't like something or someone looked at them wrong.I'm sorry but this bill is straight bull**** and everyone knows it. If you don't like something about a place go somewhere else and leave well alone!!!!!!!
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Rusch, South
 3/ 3/2008 - 8:09am
   1) If this passes, how is legislature going to pay back all of the "restaurant-bars" that had to spend thousands of dollars getting separate ventilation systems and sectioning off the bar from the restaurant so they could be compliant with OK law?
   2) EVERYWHERE is smoke free in OK EXCEPT BARS! If you don't want smoke go everywhere else BUT A BAR, simple!
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jashley, Midtown
 3/ 1/2008 - 2:18pm
   This is, arguably, the worst form of tyranny: forcing people to do something they don't want because you believe it's in their best interest.
   
   Here's the way things are supposed to work: if you're convinced this is for the best, open your own smoke-free music venue/bar. If you manage to make the bar fun enough to attract customers who will have to smoke outside, or enough people are against smoking in bars, you'll have a successful business, and people who don't like smoky bars will have another option.
   
   It's called a free market. The people who want to regulate every aspect of our lives should do some research into this radical concept.
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