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On the Road to The White House

Never have so many said so little to so few. But, itís all politicking in the flyover states and we love the attention.


BY JENNIE LLOYD

One of the biggest ongoing stories of 2012 is, and will be, the presidential election. Along the way, Oklahomans are tuning in to the ridiculous, smart, funny and downright awful campaign moves and contretemps of Republican hopefuls.

So, who resonates with Okies? To test the political waters, we asked four Tulsans with four different backgrounds about their thoughts and opinions on the current slate of Republican presidential hopefuls, what issues resonate most with them, and their predictions on what will happen in November.

The four Tulsans we chose were: the lovely bloggers at local liberal blog AltTulsa.net (represented by John Coward); a brand-new dad, former candidate for Oklahoma State Senate and Independent Gary Casey; a red-blooded, Rush Limbaugh-lovin' Republican, independent contractor and musician Ken Winkle Jr.; and former moderate-turned-liberal, retired pharmaceutical representative Johanna Tuberville.

Running Rampant

While our two liberal pundits wouldn't consider voting for a Republican, they have their own ideas about which Republicans are resonating most with Oklahomans.

"We have no dog in the GOP food fight," Coward said. He and the bloggers at AltTulsa wouldn't consider voting for any of the Republican candidates, but said they preferred now-withdrawn Jon Huntsman and Mitt Romney over the others.

"At least they are serious adults," Coward said. "A term that doesn't apply to the likes of Rick Perry and Ron Paul."

Casey disagreed. Either you hate Ron Paul or you love him, and Casey is in the latter camp. He has high hopes for what Paul might be able to accomplish in office. "He'll bring our troops home and exercise prudence in foreign policy," Casey said. "He'll end that money-sucking, minority crushing war on drugs, protect our civil liberties, audit those dastardly bankers at the Federal Reserve, get us back to a sound monetary policy, get rid of overbearing bureaucracies..." And he could go on, but you get the point.

Despite Casey's Paul-love, he admits Romney is the Republicans' frontrunner. However, he's not sure Romney's highly polished rhetoric (and coif) resonate with Oklahomans. "[Romney] only garnered 25 percent of the vote in 2008 with a pretty populated primary ballot in Oklahoma," Casey pointed out. "I think it's conceivable that Romney could lose again, but it depends on who is still in the race after Florida."

And sure enough, Romney swept Florida -- taking home the win with 46 percent of the vote compared to Gingrich's 31.9 percent, Santorum's 13.3 percent and Paul's 7 percent.



Winkle said he thinks Santorum "tugs on the favorite heartstrings" of Oklahoma Republicans, "but they might go [with Gingrich] because he once shook the hand of Ronald Reagan," he joked.

Tuberville said she feels like "whoever eventually runs against President Barack Obama will resonate most with Oklahomans. "Considering that 70 percent of our voters thought Sharia law was and is a real threat really demonstrated the high 'gullible' factor in the state," she explained.

Tuberville said she thinks Romney will ultimately take the nom. "He has the least amount of baggage," she said, then corrected the statement slightly, "Well, maybe not the least amount, but the least offensive baggage."

Oklahoma was the only state in the union to go completely red in the 2008 presidential election. All 77 of Oklahoma's counties went to McCain.

Despite our panel's general consensus that Romney will likely end up with the nomination, they are concerned about possible stumbling blocks he'll face. "I'm curious to see if Okies can overcome their fear of accepting Mormons into the Christian family and vote for Romney," Winkle said.

Overall, our panel was divided on who is the best and worst candidates. The opinions reflect a greater sense of unease among the Okie conservative electorate who isn't thrilled with the current slew of Republican candidates.

The One We Love to Hate

Early in the race, SoonerPoll showed Gingrich on top with 33 percent of the Oklahoma vote. But our commenters had ambivalent feelings about Gingrich. Most of the four begrudgingly gave him credit for his unique political mind, but think the '90s wunderkind may be past his prime.

"We think Newt is one of the finest minds of the 1990s, a legend in his own mind," Coward said.

Gingrich's reputation has suffered many blows over the years, and the most damaging have been the ones he's inflicted upon himself (asking for a divorce from his first wife -- who lay in her hospital bed while she recovered from a cancer surgery; philandering during his second marriage while pressing for Bill Clinton's impeachment or more recently advocating the arrest of federal judges who make "radical" rulings). Coward calls him a "flawed candidate."

"Besides the oversized ego, there's the whole Freddie Mac lobbyist problem and a raft of ethical issues from the 1990s," Coward said. "Will Oklahomans choose a twice-divorced, thrice-married GOP candidate?"

Casey isn't a fan of Gingrich either. "I think he represents the status quo in Washington," Casey said.

Tuberville also cited Gingrich as her least favorite candidate. "He helped propel divisive politics to a whole new era when he was Speaker of the House," she said. "Newt is everything that's wrong with politics."

Turning the Table

Our panel is unanimous: Romney, like it or not, will take the nom and go head-to-head with the president this November.

Despite our panel's feelings about the GOP candidates, a relatively late surge may put Santorum out in front. After a visit to the Mabee Center on Feb. 9, where he spoke to a crowd of 4,000-plus Okies, Santorum pulled ahead in the SoonerPoll.

In a surprising turn of events, the GOP hopeful won the Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri primaries and is currently projected to take the Sooner state with a 43 percent victory.

Who will ultimately win the Republican nomination? On March 6, Oklahoma will have its say in this national debate through our closed primary (only registered Republicans are allowed to vote). Oklahoma has a total of 43 delegates up for grabs. In the past month, Gingrich, Santorum and Paul have all made campaign stops in the Sooner State, drawing thousands of Okies as they stumped for delegates.

In 2008, Arizona Senator John McCain won the Oklahoma primary with 37 percent of the votes. Romney finished third with 25 percent, while Paul won three percent of primary votes.

Stay tuned into UTW this election season as we continue to let our thoughtful readers break down the latest political shenanigans and give a Tulsa-centric view on that biggest of national spectacles that comes 'round every four years: the fight for the White House.

Send all comments and feedback regarding City to jlloyd@urbantulsa.com



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6 comments posted for this article
mj
 3/ 1/2012 - 12:42pm
   "Stay tuned into UTW this election season as we continue to let our thoughtful readers break down the latest political shenanigans... "
   LOL!
   I would say the shenanigans belong to Hussein & company; way too many to list on this venue.
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Charles Purvis
 2/29/2012 - 6:52pm
   •Santorum was a serial earmarker, requesting billions of dollars during his time in the Senate, and not reversing his position on earmarks until he was out of Congress in 2010. As recently as 2009, Rick said, “I’m not saying necessarily earmarks are bad. I have had a lot of earmarks. In fact, I’m very proud of all the earmarks I’ve put in bills. I’ll defend earmarks.”
    •Santorum voted for H J Res 47 Debt Limit Increase Resolution
    •Santorum voted to raise the national debt ceiling five times
    •Santorum voted for the 2005 highway bill that included thousands and thousands of wasteful earmarks, including the Bridge to Nowhere. In fact, according to Club for Growth, “in a separate vote, Santorum had the audacity to vote to continue funding the Bridge to Nowhere rather than send the money to rebuild New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.”
    •Santorum voted for CAFTA, which removes duties on textile and apparel goods traded among participating nations, resulting in nearly ALL textile companies leaving the South.
    •Santorum voted for Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002 (though he now says he will repeal it), which imposes job-killing federal regulations on businesses.
    •Santorum voted against the National Right to Work Act of 1995, which would have repealed provisions of federal law that “require employees to pay union dues or fees as a condition of employment.”
    •Santorum voted for taxes in the Internet Access Tax Bill
    •Santorum voted for HR 3448 – Minimum Wage Increase bill, which allows punitive damages for injury or illness to be taxed, allows damages for emotional distress to be taxed and repeals the diesel fuel tax rebate to purchasers of diesel-powered automobiles and light trucks.
    •Santorum voted to confirm President Bill Clinton’s nomination of Alan Greenspan to be chairman of the board of governors of the Federal Reserve System for a fourth four-year term.
    •Santorum voted for Medicare prescription drug benefit known as Medicare Part D, though critical of it now. It is the largest expansion of entitlement spending since President Lyndon Johnson, which now costs taxpayers more than $60 billion a year and has almost $16 trillion in unfunded liabilities, according to Club for Growth.
    •Santorum voted in 1997 to support the Lautenberg Gun Ban, “which stripped law-abiding gun owners of their Second Amendment rights for life, simply because they spanked their children or did nothing more than grab a spouse’s wrist,” according to a press release from Dudley Brown, executive director of the National Association for Gun Rights.
    •Santorum voted in 1999 for a bill “disguised as an attempt to increase penalties on drug traffickers with guns … but it also included a provision to require federal background checks at gun shows,” again according to Dudley Brown’s release.
    •Santorum “came to anti-gun Arlen Specter’s defense in 2004 when he was down in the polls against pro-gun Republican Pat Toomey. Specter won and continued to push for gun control during his years in the Senate,” per Brown.
    •Santorum voted with Barbara Boxer in 2005 on the Gun Lock Requirement Amendment
    •Santorum voted for the Firearms Manufacturers Protection Bill and then flip-flopped and voted against it in S 1805 – Firearms Manufacturers Protection Bill
    •Santorum voted against HR 2356 – Campaign Reform Act of 2001
    •Santorum voted for an amendment to the Communications Act of 1934 that requires television broadcast providers to give their lowest rates to political candidates.
    •Santorum voted for HR 1 – No Child Left Behind Act
    •Santorum sponsored legislation to force companies to pay laid off workers benefits.
    •Santorum worked for an increase in funding big government programs like Head Start.
    •Santorum voted for taxpayer money to go to Pennsylvania families for their heating bills.
    •Santorum introduced and co-sponsored big government health-care bills.
    •Santorum voted for HR 796 – the protection of abortion clinics
    •Santorum actively supports the Global Fund, which was created by the United Nations to fight HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria, but also “channels a large portion of its funds through Planned Parenthood’s affiliates around the world and through a British group Marie Stopes International (the largest chain of abortion mills in the UK, with 66,000 abortions a year.)… to operate in Cambodia, Fiji, Bangladesh, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Burma, Kenya, Tanzania, and other countries,” according to the pro-life Gerard Health Foundation that provides millions of dollars to pro-life groups.
    •Santorum boasted of teaming up with Joe Lieberman, Barbara Boxer and Hillary Clinton in his 2006 political ad for re-election to the U.S. Senate, which he lost to Democrat Bob Casey Jr. by the largest margin of victory ever for a Democratic Senate nominee in Pennsylvania and the largest margin of victory for a Senate challenger in the 2006 elections.
    •Santorum opposed the tea party and its reforms in the Republican Party and conservative movement just a couple years ago saying, “I have some real concerns about this movement within the Republican party … to sort of refashion conservatism. And I will vocally and publicly oppose it.”
   
   It’s no wonder in January that Rep. Ron Paul accused Santorum of having a “very liberal” political record.
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Charles Purvis
 2/29/2012 - 6:50pm
   99% of the comments on Newt Gingrich in this article are inaccurate to put it nicely! Find the truth here....
   http://www.newt.org/answers/
   
   Then look at his plans to turn America around here:
   http://www.newt.org/solutions/
   
   Don't let the Republican establishment and pundits lead you astray. Do your own research, then make up your own mind, based on facts, not calculated misrepresentations.
   
   Conservatives win elections by running on and standing firm on their Conservative principles.
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Charles Purvis
 2/29/2012 - 6:43pm
   $2.50/gal gas? American energy independance, which will bolster our national security, not to mention our pockets, our job growth and revenues and therefore economic growth? Finally a declining national debt? It is possible with the
   right leadership!
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOImnCrKPZ8
   
   My vote is going for the gentleman in the above video speaking on achieving energy independance, Newt Gingrich. While he may be a very blunt man, which I actually like and believe is necessary, he is by far the most qualified and experienced candidate to lead our country at this point in history. His record proves this, even showing he was able to achieve needed results by working in a bipartisan manner with Bill Clinton while serving as Speaker of the House. And he did so while standing firm on his Conservative principles. In some cases he had to take on members of his own party to do what he knew was right for the American people. He is a great thinker with bold ideas, and has proven he can convert these ideas into real working solutions, contrary to the inaccurate charges stating otherwise from his past disgruntled colleagues whom he had to take on in some issues. His Conservatism has been proven time and again by his record,receiving an American Conservative Union lifetime rating of 90%, 100% in 1998. He was part of the Reagan team, Nancy Reagan having said at the 1995 Goldwater Institute Dinner honoring President Ronald Reagan, "Barry Goldwater handed the torch to Ronnie, and in turn Ronnie turned that torch over to Newt and the Republican members of Congress to keep that dream alive.". He has endorsements from proven Conservatives ranging from Michael Reagan to Fred Thompson to J.C. Watts. Also of importance is his undeniable ability to articulate the Conservative view better than anyone. Newt has had a very strong showing in most of the debates, winning the majority of them. As a matter of fact, in 2 of the debates he received a standing ovation, which is a rare occurrence. Newt will take Obama to the proverbial woodshed in any debate, on any issue, at any time. And as far as his so called "baggage", that has been thoroughly scrutinized for years, with the majority proven false, save his infidelities and "sit-down" with Nancy Pelosi which he readily condemned himself. There will be no October surprises with him. I implore everyone to visit his website, see for themselves, do more research, then make their decision. It is imperative we defeat Barrack Obama!
   
   Conservatives win elections by running on and standing firm on their Conservative principles.
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GaryCasey
 2/29/2012 - 2:29pm
   Just FYI for all of you readers out there. The article states that I am an Independent, but I am a officially a registered Republican and have been for many years. I am very independent-minded, though, as Jennie knows. ;)
   Just want to make sure my fellow Republicans and Paul supporting friends didn't think I jumped ship and changed my registration.
   Ron Paul 2012! FTW!
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Chet
 2/29/2012 - 11:24am
   fellow Okies check out Ron Paul and I think you will be surprised to actually like what this guy stands for! like the article says, our troops will come home, the federal reserve will be regulated, sound money, and many other logical policy changes!
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