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Member since: August 12, 2012
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Golden Ace, where is the proof that Vision 2025 worked. I've seen nothing. A strip mall on the river with almost no businesses in it. A strip mall that is being bought by someone so soon after it was built because it lost money almost from day one. No one wants to sit outside and eat while they stare at nearly dry river bed. What other improvements are you talking about. The worst streets I've ever seen, you mentioned the BOK...big deal. Who profits from the BOK besides the City and a few (very few) small businesses downtown? I would really like for you to point out some improvements that benefit everyone not just a few. Please don't talk about those worthless statues along the river and I hope to God you don't talk about dog parks. Please I really want to know what was done with this money that Bill LaFortune had to have so bad that truly provided some kind of benefit to "everyone".
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Anyone who votes for this has not done their homework. We were promised we would not shoulder the financial burden for these "aerospace improvements" and now here we are going to foot the bill to keep a company in Tulsa that files bankruptcy every time we blink. Keeping American Airlines afloat is the responsibility of American Airlines. Let them build their own hangars. Todd Cunningham says that Tulsa was a model of cosmopolitan living. Todd are you high. When did this happen. Tulsa was "NEVER" a model of cosmopolitan living! These people on here that are voting for this proposal if you'll notice are in one way or another connected to the proposal itself. Their organizations are either involved in this proposal or will benefit from it's passing or both. Golden-Ace, we may own the hangars but who uses them and there is more to it than just those particular hangars. AA stands to benefit enormously from the passage of this proposal. You say we lose 11,000 jobs. That is I agree a bad thing. However, businesses come and go and American Airlines should have been allowed to go under completely years ago. The people that manage AA are among the worst in the country. When Crane was involved (and I know this first hand) his theory was expand now, we can always cut back. Well, you see where that theory has gotten AA. Let them fall, let them go elsewhere, Tulsa survived without them before and Tulsa can do it again.
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This issue was shoved down the throats of Tulsa Citizens without any consideration. It's going to create a mess. People are basically nasty when it comes to trash. This city will see a lot of illegal dumpings in the months to come with trash everywhere. This is another example of a city government out of control and a council that is clueless and willing to ignore the very people that elected them.
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2025 was a good idea put forth by a man that had no clue. Bill LaFortune and those that masterminded this would have done well to hand it over to someone who knew how to make it work. It has been a miserable failure and voting to continue it is insane.
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Downtown Tulsa, some 40 years ago was a very nice place to shop. However, it's been a slum and a cesspool for decades now. It's demise is the fault of Mayor's much like the current one, local business leaders and a city counsel. When you have a city counsel that consists of people that are drunken whore mongers,another that is probably the biggest racist in the city, another who is a business man with collection agencies snapping at his heels and the others are just too stupid to even consider, you're going to have a city that suffers. Anyone that moves into downtown Tulsa right now is placing their very financial lives in the hands of some on the biggest morons in the country.
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